Legislature(2023 - 2024)BUTROVICH 205

02/08/2023 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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03:31:49 PM Start
03:32:41 PM Presentation(s): Overview of the Tax Structure for Cook Inlet
03:55:58 PM Presentation(s): Department Overview by the Department of Natural Resources (dnr)
05:01:25 PM Adjourn
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Overview: Tax Structure on Cook Inlet by
Alaska Department of Revenue, Tax Division
Presentation: Alaska Department of Natural
Resources: Dept. Overview by
Commissioner-Designee John Boyle
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                        February 8, 2023                                                                                        
                           3:31 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Click Bishop, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Cathy Giessel, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Bill Wielechowski, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Senator Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                          
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                          
Senator Matt Claman                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S):  OVERVIEW OF THE TAX STRUCTURE ON COOK INLET BY                                                                
THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE (DOR)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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PRESENTATION(S):  OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL                                                                         
RESOURCES (DNR)                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DAN STICKEL, Chief Economist                                                                                                    
Economic Research Group                                                                                                         
Department of Revenue (DOR)                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions and provided information                                                               
about the tax structure for Cook Inlet.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BRANDON SPANOS, Deputy Director                                                                                                 
Tax Division                                                                                                                    
Department of Revenue (DOR)                                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions and  provided information                                                             
about the tax structure for Cook Inlet.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JOHN CROWTHER, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Participated  in the  Department of  Natural                                                             
Resources (DNR) overview.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
BRENT GOODRUM, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Participated  in the  Department of  Natural                                                             
Resources (DNR) overview.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MIA KIRK, Acting Director                                                                                                       
Division of Agriculture                                                                                                         
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the  Department of                                                             
Natural Resources overview.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BRENT GOODRUM, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Participated  in the  Department of  Natural                                                             
Resources (DNR) overview.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JOHN BOYLE, Commissioner-Designee                                                                                               
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Participated  in the  Department of  Natural                                                             
Resources (DNR) overview.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:31:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  CATHY  GIESSEL  called the  Senate  Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:31  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were  Senators Dunbar,  Claman, Wielechowski,  and Co-Chair                                                               
Bishop  and  Co-Chair  Giessel.  Senators  Kaufman  and  Kawasaki                                                               
arrived shortly thereafter.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):  OVERVIEW OF THE TAX STRUCTURE FOR COOK INLET                                                                 
 DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE (DOR) DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TAX STRUCTURE                                                             
                         FOR COOK INLET                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:32:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL  announced that the Department  of Revenue would                                                               
respond to  the lingering questions  about the tax  structure for                                                               
Cook Inlet.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:33:21 PM                                                                                                                    
DAN   STICKEL,   Chief   Economist,  Economic   Research   Group,                                                               
Department of Revenue (DOR), Juneau, Alaska, introduced himself.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL requested answers to the following:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   • The tax rate for Cook Inlet.                                                                                               
   • Whether expenditures in Cook Inlet could be deducted from a                                                                
     company's North Slope liabilities.                                                                                         
   • The revenue implications for the state if a company,                                                                       
     Hilcorp specifically, is an S corporations.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STICKEL  clarified  that  DOR  cannot  talk  about  specific                                                               
taxpayer  information  so  the presenters  would  be  talking  in                                                               
generalities when they discuss corporations  that are and are not                                                               
subject to corporate income tax.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He convey  that in  terms of  the overall  fiscal system  in Cook                                                               
Inlet,  the  state  receives revenue  primarily  from  four  main                                                               
sources:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   • State royalty applies to production from state-owned lands.                                                              
   • Corporate income tax applies to C corporations. Statewide,                                                               
     most companies  doing business in  the oil and  gas industry                                                               
     are  C  corporations.  For companies  that  are  subject  to                                                               
     corporate income tax, the top marginal rate is 9.4 percent.                                                                
   • Property tax is a 20 mill assessment, or 2 percent of the                                                                
     assessed value of the property. A credit for any municipal                                                                 
     taxes offsets that, so the company pays 20 mills and the                                                                   
     state receives a portion. Severance/Production tax is applied to the production of                                                                 
     oil and gas and paid to the state.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:35:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. STICKEL  explained that the severance/production  tax in Cook                                                               
Inlet changed January 1, 2022 so  there are both before and after                                                               
regimes, for  gas taxes in  particular. The  base tax rate  is 35                                                               
percent of the  production value. It is a  net profits-based tax.                                                               
Production tax value  is the calculation similar to  a net profit                                                               
calculation. That  applied to both  oil and gas prior  to January                                                               
1, 2022. After  that date, the 35 percent net  continued to apply                                                               
to oil, but  for gas it changed  to a 13 percent  gross tax rate.                                                               
That  change  applied  statewide   for  all  gas  production.  It                                                               
originally was intended  to line up with a  potentially major gas                                                               
sale from the North Slope.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL  stated that  there is  no tax  floor in  Cook Inlet.                                                               
Currently, no  significant tax credits  apply. A small  number of                                                               
companies receive the small producer  credit that is being phased                                                               
out. The  other major  tax credits for  Cook Inlet  were repealed                                                               
effective January 1, 2018. Tax ceilings  are in place for oil and                                                               
gas.  The tax  ceiling for  oil is  $1 per  barrel. For  oil, run                                                               
through the tax  calculation, apply the 35  percent of production                                                               
tax net  rate, and what's  owed is either the  35 net tax  or the                                                               
$1/bbl ceiling.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:35:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAUFMAN joined the meeting.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL continued to explain  that a tax ceiling also applies                                                               
to gas.  It distinguishes between  fields in production  prior to                                                               
April 1,  2006 and  fields that came  into production  after that                                                               
date. That date  was tied to the state's switch  from a gross tax                                                               
system to a net tax system  that was implemented in 2006 with the                                                               
petroleum profits tax (PPT) legislation.  For the gas fields that                                                               
were producing  prior to April 1  2006, the tax ceiling  is based                                                               
on the  effective gross tax  rate in  place for the  preceding 12                                                               
months. Depending  on the field,  those ceilings range  from zero                                                               
to  about $0.25  per thousand  cubic feet  (Mcf). For  any fields                                                               
that came into production post April  1, 2006, the tax ceiling is                                                               
$0.177/Mcf. As  of 2006,  that represents  the average  gross tax                                                               
rate for all fields.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:39:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI joined the committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL  added that starting  in 2022  when gas changed  to a                                                               
gross tax,  a producer that  has both  oil and gas  production is                                                               
able to  apply all  of their lease  expenditures against  the net                                                               
tax calculation for oil.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He asked if there were questions.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:40:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN asked  him  to  expand on  the  question of  what                                                               
expenses  can  be deducted  against  fields  on the  North  Slope                                                               
versus Cook Inlet.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL explained that production  tax has what's referred to                                                               
as a  ring fence. It  describes how lease expenditures  can apply                                                               
between different fields.  For example, for a field  on the North                                                               
Slope  a producer  calculates their  tax on  a slope-wide  basis.                                                               
This means  that any  expenditures in  one field  can be  used to                                                               
offset revenue from  production in another field.  In response to                                                               
a question, he confirmed this was specific to the North Slope.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
For Cook Inlet,  each field has its own  calculation, which means                                                               
a producer cannot  use expenses from one field  to offset revenue                                                               
from another field.  The producer also cannot apply  any of those                                                               
expenses against North Slope production.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:41:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked  if he had responded  to the committee                                                               
questions in writing.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL answered no but  the department would provide written                                                               
responses.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  said  it  would be  helpful  to  have  the                                                               
numbers  on  a  single  sheet  for  reference.  He  recapped  his                                                               
understanding of  the explanation  of the taxes  and asked  if it                                                               
was accurate.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STICKEL said  he'd be  happy  to update  a presentation  the                                                               
division  delivered   last  session  and  provide   that  to  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL asked him to send it to her office.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  said the committee  was looking  for levers                                                               
to pull to get  more gas from Cook Inlet, so  it was important to                                                               
know those tax  rates. He asked how much the  state had collected                                                               
the last couple of years in taxes and royalties from Cook Inlet.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:43:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. STICKEL said  an analysis was prepared last  year that looked                                                               
at total  taxes and  royalties. For FY2021  the estimate  was $65                                                               
million  from Cook  Inlet and  the  estimate for  FY2020 was  $68                                                               
million.  He noted  that the  department  was in  the process  of                                                               
updating the analysis for FY2022.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked how many barrels were produced.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL  answered that for  FY2021, there was  10,600 bbl/day                                                               
of oil  production from  Cook Inlet and  about 222  million cubic                                                               
feet (MMcf) per day of gas production.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked how much  in taxes and  royalties the                                                               
state was  receiving per  barrel per day  from Cook  Inlet versus                                                               
the  North  Slope compared  to  what  the producers  and  federal                                                               
government were receiving.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL said he would follow up with the information.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:44:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP asked if he  could prepare an order of operations                                                               
specific to Cook Inlet.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL agreed to provide the information.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:45:06 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR asked  him to confirm the taxes  and royalties the                                                               
state collected from Cook Inlet for FY2021 and FY2022.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL said the analysis  prepared last year showed that for                                                               
FY2020  Cook  Inlet revenue  was  estimated  at $68  million  and                                                               
revenue for FY2021 was estimated at $65 million.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNBAR  asked if that  was from just  gas or gas  and oil                                                               
combined.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL  answered that  those revenue  numbers were  from gas                                                               
and  oil combined.  He added  that property  and income  tax were                                                               
difficult to assign to either oil or gas.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DUNBAR  commented that  it was  a little  surprising that                                                               
the state  only received  $65 million in  total revenue  from oil                                                               
and   gas  together   from  Cook   Inlet.  He   asked  for   help                                                               
understanding both how  to stimulate gas production  and how that                                                               
revenue compares to all the activity in Cook Inlet.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL said  the forthcoming graphic will  highlight the key                                                               
elements of the  fiscal regime, including tax  ceiling, tax rate,                                                               
the way  lease expenditures are  applied, and tax  credits, which                                                               
no longer apply.  The analysis will show that  the production tax                                                               
burden is  relatively low  for Cook  Inlet. He  acknowledged that                                                               
the analysis could be expanded to look at property tax.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL stated  that her  office  would distribute  the                                                               
analysis that Mr. Stickel agreed to provide.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:48:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN  requested  the graphic  also  describe  how  the                                                               
department  calculates   what  a   producer  actually   pays.  He                                                               
commented  that because  of the  cap,  producers probably  aren't                                                               
always paying 35 percent.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:49:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked for the  total amount of  tax credits                                                               
the state had  provided for Cook Inlet. He noted  that he'd heard                                                               
conflicting numbers.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL said he would follow up with the information.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked if  the  tax  division had  done  an                                                               
analysis  of the  incentives that  worked  and did  not work.  He                                                               
listed examples that included tax  credits, jack-up rigs, cutting                                                               
credit royalties to zero, and reducing tax on oil and gas.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL  replied that  they were in  the process  of updating                                                               
prior analyses  that looked at  the correlation  between enacting                                                               
tax credits and  what happened to oil and gas  production in Cook                                                               
Inlet; and  what companies that  received tax credits went  on to                                                               
do in terms of lease expenditures and production.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:50:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked whether  the department was working on                                                               
any sort of an ask from Cook Inlet producers.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL  said he would  defer the policy question  about what                                                               
the  department  was  working  on,  but he  could  speak  to  the                                                               
analysis that the tax group was working to update.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked whether  someone from  the department                                                               
was available to answer policy questions.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STICKEL answered  that some  leadership members  of the  Tax                                                               
Division where available online.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL  asked Brandon  Spanos  to  respond to  Senator                                                               
Wielechowski's question.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:51:29 PM                                                                                                                    
BRANDON  SPANOS, Deputy  Director,  Tax  Division, Department  of                                                               
Revenue (DOR), Anchorage,  Alaska, stated that he  would defer to                                                               
the  Commissioner of  Revenue. He'd  been in  the position  for a                                                               
month and did not have that information.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  said he  understood,  but  the answer  was                                                               
important. He  didn't want  the committee  and legislature  to be                                                               
rushed  into  making  a  decision   about  Cook  Inlet,  but  the                                                               
situation  was approaching  crisis level  because some  utilities                                                               
were going to  run out of gas  in just two years.  He opined that                                                               
getting  an import  facility for  LNG up  and running  would take                                                               
five years  and it may  take even longer  to build a  gasline. He                                                               
said he  has the feeling  that an "ask"  is coming and  he'd like                                                               
the  committee  and  legislature  to be  prepared  for  that.  He                                                               
restated the importance  of getting the information  from the tax                                                               
division sooner rather than later.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL advised  that she would ask  the commissioner of                                                               
Revenue to come before the committee and answer the question.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:53:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP  said diversification is key,  and then commented                                                               
on what would  have happened if Susitna [Susitna  Watana Dam] had                                                               
been built in 1984.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:53:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI said  he too  anticipates  a forthcoming  "ask"                                                               
from the  utilities. He  emphasized that  the lack  of affordable                                                               
gas is critical throughout the  Railbelt, but particularly so for                                                               
people in the Interior and  Fairbanks region. If there's going to                                                               
be a  substantive policy change  or an  "ask" for the  Cook Inlet                                                               
region, it's better to know that sooner rather than later.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL   noted  that   Mr.  Stickel  would   take  the                                                               
committee's specific question to the commissioner.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):    DEPARTMENT  OVERVIEW BY  THE  DEPARTMENT  OF                                                               
NATURAL RESOURCES (DNR)                                                                                                         
     PRESENTATION(S):  OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL                                                                
                         RESOURCES (DNR)                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:55:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL  announced the  consideration of an  overview of                                                               
the Department  of Natural Resources. She  listed the individuals                                                               
who would participate in the presentation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:56:40 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:58:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  GESSEL   reconvened  the  meeting  and   welcomed  John                                                               
Crowther.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:58:21 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN  CROWTHER,   Deputy  Commissioner,  Department   of  Natural                                                               
Resources, Anchorage,  Alaska introduced  himself and  provided a                                                               
brief  biography.  He  relayed that  Commissioner-Designee  Boyle                                                               
would arrive  subsequently to provide introductory  remarks about                                                               
himself as he assumes the leadership of the department.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER read  the department's  mission statement  from the                                                               
Alaska Constitution.  It provides a unique  directive to maximize                                                               
the value of  resources for the public. The  department takes its                                                               
mission  seriously   and  the  organizational  chart   shows  the                                                               
professionals  who provide  leadership over  seven divisions  and                                                               
two key offices. [The organizational  chart may be found on slide                                                               
2 of the presentation.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:01:58 PM                                                                                                                    
BRENT  GOODRUM,   Deputy  Commissioner,  Department   of  Natural                                                               
Resources, Anchorage,  Alaska, introduced himself and  provided a                                                               
brief biography.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:02:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GOODRUM explained  that the Division of  Agriculture works to                                                             
protect  Alaska's  natural  resources and  ecosystems  through  a                                                               
variety  of  programs.  A  state  priority  is  to  improve  food                                                               
security   by  getting   more   land   into  production   through                                                               
agricultural  land  sales, improving  infrastructure,  leveraging                                                               
USDA agricultural production programs,  and continued support for                                                               
market access for agricultural producers.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The  2022 season  was  challenging and  harvests  were poor.  The                                                               
division  responded   by  implementing   a  food   security  cost                                                               
assistance  incentive grant  program.  Nearly  $500,000 is  being                                                               
distributed  to 43  commercial livestock  producers statewide  in                                                               
phase  one.  The  Alaska   Barley  Transportation  Support  Grant                                                               
Program  that is  underway  is  in response  to  the shortage  of                                                               
Alaska-grown  livestock  feed.  The  state is  seeking  to  cover                                                               
transportation costs to import critically needed livestock feed.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GOODRUM  described a  joint  program  with the  Division  of                                                               
Mining  Land and  Water. It  was the  first successful  land sale                                                               
offering of  27 parcels. This  was nearly 2,000 acres  within the                                                               
Nenana  Totchaket Agricultural  Project area.  Successful bidders                                                               
are currently working on farm development plans.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GOODRUM  highlighted  that  division  inspectors  helped  to                                                               
facilitate the  export of over  $140 million in logs  and peonies                                                               
in 2022. The division manages  about $1 million in specialty crop                                                               
grants and  $4 million in micro  grants that are focused  on food                                                               
security. Last,  the Agricultural  Revolving Loan  Fund continued                                                               
to provide  loan opportunities for new  and expanded agricultural                                                               
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
4:05:43 PM                                                                                                                  
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  expressed interest in the  reimbursement to                                                               
commercial  farmers for  livestock  feed. He  noted  that of  the                                                               
$450,000 that was distributed to  43 individuals, about one-third                                                               
or  $147,000  went  to  just  one individual.  He  asked  for  an                                                               
explanation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOODRUM deferred to Mia Kirk.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:06:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MIA KIRK,  Acting Director,  Division of  Agriculture, Department                                                               
of Natural  Resources, Palmer, Alaska, offered  her understanding                                                               
that   a  $147,000   receipt  was   submitted.  It   was  not   a                                                               
reimbursement.  The   division  reimbursed  40  percent   of  the                                                               
eligible receipts  that were submitted  and that's  what happened                                                               
with that specific receipt.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked  if  this was  a  state  or  federal                                                               
program  and  how  it  worked   if  one-third  could  go  to  one                                                               
individual.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KIRK  reiterated  that  the  $147,000  was  a  receipt.  The                                                               
division   reviewed   the   applications  for   eligibility   and                                                               
established a 40 percent reimbursement  for the eligible receipts                                                               
that were  submitted. The individual  who submitted  the $147,000                                                               
receipt  would  have been  reimbursed  40  percent, or  close  to                                                               
$60,000.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:09:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GOODRUM   reviewed  the  Division   of  Forestry   and  Fire                                                               
Prevention.  He  noted that  fire  prevention  was added  to  the                                                               
division's name  by Executive  Order on July  1, 2022.  He stated                                                               
that the  division is tasked  with wildland fire  management over                                                               
150 million acres, primarily to protect life and property.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He reported  that last  year the Lime  Complex fire  in Southwest                                                               
Alaska  was the  largest in  the nation,  encompassing more  than                                                               
865,000 acres.  This area saw  little fire activity in  the past.                                                               
In 2022, 30 fires each burned  more than 40,000 acres. A total of                                                               
592  fires statewide  were attacked  aggressively, which  limited                                                               
216 fires  that occurred in critical  protection zones, resulting                                                               
in just 109 acres being consumed.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOODRUM  reported that  with help  from the  legislature, the                                                               
division established  a fuel mitigation section  that proactively                                                               
mitigates hazardous  fuels and  establish and  maintain strategic                                                               
fire breaks around homes, businesses, and communities.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOODRUM  reviewed the 2022 firefighting  activities that were                                                               
accomplished with legislative support. He spoke to slide 6:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                  Legislative Support in 2022                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
     Building Firefighting Capacity:  DOF received the first                                                                  
     half  of   the  $8  million  needed   to  increase  our                                                                    
     firefighting   forces   to    Preparedness   Level   3,                                                                    
     including:                                                                                                               
        • Lead firefighters, training & fuels specialists,                                                                      
          GIS analyst, critical support staff                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Passed Emergency Firefighter (EFF) Bill:                                                                                 
     GF funds can now pay EFFs for non-emergency hazardous                                                                      
     fuels work.                                                                                                              
        • Creates stable employment for rural Alaskans                                                                          
        • Rebuilds village fire crews                                                                                           
        • Diversifies rural economies                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
     Reinstated the Wildland Fire Academy                                                                                     
        • Provides training to new firefighters to build                                                                        
          expertise and help rebuild our village fire                                                                           
          crews.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
     Added 6 new firefighting crew support vehicles                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
      Provided seasonal wildland firefighters with health                                                                     
     care                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:12:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GOODRUM   reviewed  the   following  about   the  division's                                                               
strategic plan that was implemented in 2022:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
         Strategic plan will reduce suppression costs &                                                                       
     increase public safety                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
        1. Implement the second phase of a self-sufficient Alaska                                                               
          firefighting force that will:                                                                                         
          • Provide for public safety                                                                                           
          • Protect critical infrastructure, Alaskan investments                                                                
             and communities from wildland fire                                                                                 
          • Reduce suppression costs by containing fires at                                                                     
             smaller footprints                                                                                                 
          • Reduce the need to rely on expensive and potentially                                                                
             unavailable Lower-48 resources                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        2. Create a network of hazardous fuels treatments around                                                              
          communities that:                                                                                                 
          • Increases public and firefighter safety                                                                             
          • Includes the use of local contractors                                                                               
          • Creates community involvement and builds skills and                                                                 
             preparedness for wildland fire                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:13:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GOODRUM stated  the  division manages  47  million acres  of                                                               
forest on state land for  commercial timber sales and public use.                                                               
Timber sales  are the primary  source of wood for  local sawmills                                                               
and value-added  wood product manufactures throughout  the state.                                                               
They are also  an important source of woody biomass  for heat and                                                               
electricity, primarily in the Interior.  The division also builds                                                               
and maintains roads  on state lands. He highlighted  that in 2022                                                               
the  division sold  9.4 million  board feet  in 34  timber sales,                                                               
worth $1.7 million. The industry  contributed 1,580 jobs and $110                                                               
million to the Alaska economy in 2022.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:14:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  asked how closely  the division had  been working                                                               
on  carbon   sequestration,  and  the  different   strategies  to                                                               
effectively reduce fires in boreal forests in the Interior.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:15:23 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN   BOYLE,   Commissioner-Designee,  Department   of   Natural                                                               
Resources,  Anchorage, Alaska,  stated  that  the department  was                                                               
working  to answer  questions  related  to carbon  sequestration.                                                               
Some  information suggests  that there  are sustainable  forestry                                                               
opportunities, particularly  in the  Interior. The  department is                                                               
looking  at whether  its statutory  and regulatory  structure are                                                               
fit for  purpose. A  criticism from  potential investors  is that                                                               
the current  lease terms  and the mechanisms  might not  give the                                                               
industry the  predictability and needed  board feet to  justify a                                                               
$200 million investment in forest infrastructure.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE  continued  to  say that  addressing  these                                                               
concerns  entails   revitalizing  an  industry  in   decline  and                                                               
providing  new  opportunities  to   actively  manage  forests  to                                                               
improve the  quality of the  timber and reduce  susceptibility to                                                               
wildfire. Through this process  comes the "additionality" element                                                               
that is essential for a carbon offset project.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[The   concept   of  an   "offset"   requires   the  concept   of                                                               
additionality. To offset  some harm, it's necessary  to show that                                                               
the  activity  "caused"  some  equivalent  extra  good  to  occur                                                               
elsewhere. Additionality is about this causal question.]                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE emphasized  that revitalizing  and building                                                               
the forest  industry is  an important factor  for success  in the                                                               
carbon  offset realm.  This entails  cutting beetle-killed  trees                                                               
and thinning forests.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:19:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN referenced the bullet  on slide 8 that highlighted                                                               
34  timber sales  totaling  9.4 million  board  feet, worth  $1.7                                                               
million. He asked if those  sales were consistent with sales over                                                               
the last 10 years on state lands.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE   BOYLE   replied   the   forest   harvests                                                               
fluctuate, but  2021 was one of  the largest harvests in  about a                                                               
decade totaling  about 15 million  board feet. Most of  the sales                                                               
are  in Southeast  and the  state has  very limited  forest lands                                                               
remaining to offer for timber sales.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLAMAN expressed confusion  about conflicting amounts and                                                               
dates between the information on the slide and the response.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE BOYLE  clarified that he was  talking about                                                               
the large harvest in 2021 when  he said last year. He deferred to                                                               
Mr. Goodrum for the exact numbers.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOODRUM offered  to provide a historical look  at Division of                                                               
Forestry sales and the board feet associated with each sale.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLAMAN asked for a 10-15 year look back.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOODRUM agreed to provide the information.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:22:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CROWTHER  advanced to slide  9. He described the  Division of                                                               
Geological and  Geophysical Surveys  as a world  class scientific                                                               
organization. The  division's mission clarifies that  it is about                                                               
applied  science,  not just  theory.  He  reviewed the  different                                                               
sections and highlighted several accomplishments.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mineral  Resources  Section  is  responsible  for  characterizing                                                           
minerals  throughout  the state.  He  directed  attention to  the                                                               
bulleted accomplishments  on the  slide and  highlighted geologic                                                               
mapping.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
     • Completed new geologic mapping of 2,317 square miles                                                                     
        in eastern Interior (Yukon-Tanana upland)                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
This area has existing mining  activity and the mineral resources                                                               
section is  further characterizing  the geology for  explorers to                                                               
understand where additional deposits may lie.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:24:31 PM                                                                                                                    
Energy Resources Section looks at  oil and gas, coal, geothermal,                                                           
and  other  energy  potential.   He  directed  attention  to  the                                                               
bulleted  accomplishments  on  the   slide  and  highlighted  the                                                               
published research in an international journal.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   • Important research on the controls on reservoir quality                                                                    
        in the Nanushuk Formation published in international                                                                    
        petroleum journal                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER  stated that both  the mineral resources  and energy                                                               
resources   sections  operated   in  partnership   with  the   US                                                               
Geological  Survey  and use  federal  funding  to complete  their                                                               
resource assessment work. The division  works hard to bring those                                                               
funds into Alaska.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:25:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP  highlighted that it  was the on the  ground work                                                               
of DNR geologists that led to the Prudhoe Bay discovery.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER agreed it was fair  to say that the state's geologic                                                               
capacity going  back to  the identification  of the  earliest oil                                                               
fields  on the  North Slope  was  critical in  the discovery  and                                                               
characterization.  That extemporary  geologic  work was  repeated                                                               
with the Nanushuk Formation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:26:29 PM                                                                                                                    
Engineering   Geology   Section   is  about   understanding   the                                                           
environment. He spoke briefly to  the bullets and noted that this                                                               
section was in  the field the day after Cyclone  Merbok to assess                                                               
high  water  marks   and  the  impacts  of   flooding  to  better                                                               
understand them in  the event of future storms  and inform future                                                               
construction, rebuilding,  and relocation activities  to increase                                                               
safety.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        • Visited 138 field sites as part of ASTAR                                                                              
          construction materials and hydrology                                                                                  
          investigations on the North Slope.                                                                                    
        • Collected 691 square miles of new lidar and nine                                                                      
          square miles of new nearshore bathymetry to                                                                           
         support hazard assessments all over the state.                                                                         
        • Deployed science response teams to landslides at                                                                      
          Seward, Skagway, Juneau, and Denali Village, and                                                                      
          to western Alaska coastal communities impacted by                                                                     
          Extra-Tropical Cyclone Merbok.                                                                                        
        • Published 22 hazards-related DGGS reports and                                                                         
          datasets and an additional four papers in peer-                                                                       
          reviewed journals.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:27:42 PM                                                                                                                    
Geologic Information  Center is the technical  brain that enables                                                             
data collection in the field and  allows data to be published and                                                               
processed for access.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Volcanology Section  houses the  Alaska Volcano  Observatory that                                                             
monitors and  assesses volcanic activity throughout  the state. A                                                               
variety of  sensing and  geologic characterization  helps predict                                                               
activity.  Federal funding  drives the  activity so  the division                                                               
works  with   federal  partners.  He  highlighted   the  recently                                                               
completed field work in the  Aleutian Chain to switch from analog                                                               
to digital sensors.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
       • Completed the 4-year "Analog to Digital" project                                                                       
        upgrading volcano monitoring stations, resulting in                                                                     
        improved ability to forecast and detect volcanic                                                                        
        unrest and eruptions.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Geologic Materials Center is a  state library of natural resource                                                             
information that, in  some instances, goes back  100 years. About                                                               
10  years ago  the  legislature provided  funding  to update  and                                                               
modernize  the  facility. That  modern  facility  is filled  with                                                               
geologic samples  and mining material, and  is regularly accessed                                                               
by explorers from around the world.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Geospatial  Office (AGO) coordinates and  standardizes the                                                             
way  geospatial  information  is utilized  throughout  the  state                                                               
system.  This  is  not  only state  government,  but  also  local                                                               
authorities seeking  to provide updated and  real-time geospatial                                                               
information to residents.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL  noted  that   geologists  would  talk  to  the                                                               
committee when they considered sequestration.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:30:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  CROWTHER advanced  to slide  12 that  highlights things  the                                                               
division plans  to work on  in calendar  year 2023. He  said this                                                               
includes  work  to  characterize geologic  hazards,  characterize                                                               
mineral and energy  resources, and make the  data more accessible                                                               
using advances in technology.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:31:24 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GOODRUM advanced  to  slide  13 to  review  the Division  of                                                               
Mining, Land and Water. He spoke to the following:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Mission:                                                                                                                 
     Provides  for the  appropriate  use  and management  of                                                                    
     Alaska's  state-owned land  and  water, aiming  towards                                                                    
     maximum use consistent with the public interest.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     The  Division of  Mining, Land  and Water  manages more                                                                  
     than  160 million  acres    a land  base comparable  in                                                                    
     size to California and most of Oregon combined.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     DMLW   supports  core   missions   of  the   Department                                                                    
     including   acquiring  and   disposing   of  land   and                                                                    
     resources; providing  use of and access  to state lands                                                                    
     for  the public;  fostering responsible  development of                                                                    
     lands;  managing  resource  data;  and  protecting  the                                                                    
     State's  natural resource  assets  consistent with  the                                                                    
     public interest.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:32:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GOODRUM advanced  to slide 14 to review some  of the Division                                                               
of Mining, Land and Water accomplishments in FY2022:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     FY2022                                                                                                                   
     •  Generated $32.5M  in revenues  to the  state through                                                                    
        authorizations for use of state lands and waters,                                                                       
        royalty payments, and land sales.                                                                                       
     •  A total  of 20,098  acres  of municipal  entitlement                                                                    
        land was conveyed to 3 different Boroughs.                                                                              
     •  Sold 148  parcels of  land to  the public,  totaling                                                                    
        approximately 1,497 acres of land.                                                                                      
     •  Offered approximately  2,000  acres of  Agricultural                                                                    
        land in the Nenana-Totchaket Agricultural Project                                                                       
        and featured approximately 27 parcels ranging in                                                                        
        size from 20-320 acres each.                                                                                            
     •  Generated $5.4M in revenue  from land sales  for the                                                                    
        Land Income Disposal Fund.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Provided  support  for  Governor  Dunleavy's  Unlocking                                                                    
     Alaska   Initiative  asserting,   on   behalf  of   all                                                                    
     Alaskans, state ownership,  management and control over                                                                    
     submerged lands  and navigable waters and  over RS 2477                                                                    
     rights-of-way and  other state easements  across Alaska                                                                    
     by:                                                                                                                        
     •  Commencing litigation against the Federal Government                                                                    
        to remove clouds from state title on navigable                                                                          
        rivers.                                                                                                                 
     •  Winning a  substantial victory  for majority  of the                                                                    
       North Fork and Middle Fork of the Fortymile River.                                                                       
     •  Developing the  State  Transportation  Plan for  the                                                                    
        Fortymile area to be completed in FY2023.                                                                               
     •  Conducting  extensive  fieldwork  to  support  Quiet                                                                    
        Title Act litigation on rivers across the state and                                                                     
        all RS 2477 rights-of-ways located within the Yukon-                                                                    
        Charley Rivers National Preserve.                                                                                       
     •  Pursuing  a   Joint  Reconciliation   Initiative  to                                                                    
        potentially expand land entitlement to both the                                                                         
        State and Native Corporations.                                                                                          
     •  Issuing authorizations for Crescent Lake within Lake                                                                    
        Clark National Park & Preserve.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:33:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.   GOODRUM   advanced   to  slide   15   and   described   the                                                               
organizational retooling  the Division of Mining,  Land and Water                                                               
underwent  in the  last few  years. Statewide  policy teams  were                                                               
created   to  improve   efficiency,  consistency,   and  customer                                                               
service.  The division  now settles  about 81  percent of  permit                                                               
applications  for the  use of  state lands  within 30  days. More                                                               
than  30   statewide  policies   were  developed   that  enhanced                                                               
consistency  and two  new over-the-counter  permit programs  were                                                               
created.   These   efforts   have  reduced   backlogs   in   land                                                               
applications by 32 percent and water applications by 42 percent.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GOODRUM  highlighted that  the  division  also continues  to                                                               
support  efforts  to  enhance  the   growth  of  the  mariculture                                                               
industry in Alaska.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:34:46 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CROWTHER displayed slide 16  and reviewed the Division of Oil                                                               
and Gas. He read the mission statement:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Mission:  Manage  lands  for   oil,  gas  &  geothermal                                                                  
     exploration and  development in a fair  and transparent                                                                    
     manner  to maximize  prudent use  of resources  for the                                                                    
     greatest benefit  of all  Alaskans; facilitates  safe &                                                                    
     environmentally  conscious operation  & maintenance  of                                                                    
     common carrier pipelines.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER stated  that the State of Alaska is  one of the most                                                               
respected  petroleum provinces  in the  world. Nearly  18 billion                                                               
barrels have been produced from  the North Slope and the division                                                               
sees the  potential for billions  more. The division  holds lease                                                               
sales,  manages   and  unitizes  the  leases,   and  permits  the                                                               
developments  as projects  proceed.  The division  also plays  an                                                               
important role in receiving and  managing the state's royalty. He                                                               
noted that the  Department of Revenue handles the  tax portion of                                                               
that revenue stream.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER   highlighted  the  following   accomplishments  in                                                               
FY2022:                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     •  Verified and receipted $1.8 billion  in royalty, net                                                                    
        profit share lease revenues, rents, bonus bids, unit                                                                    
        actions, and federal payments.                                                                                          
     •  Oversaw activities on 37 oil and  gas units and five                                                                    
        lease operations, conducted five area wide lease                                                                        
        sales and managed 1,719 lease actions.                                                                                  
     •  Area-wide lease sales  resulted in $568  thousand in                                                                    
        bonus bids and more than 19 thousand acres leased.                                                                      
     •  Collected $227,000 in  leasing application  fees and                                                                    
        $15.5 million in lease rent payments.                                                                                   
     •  Royalty audits resulted  in recovering  $3.3 million                                                                    
        in royalty and Net Profit Share Lease revenue,                                                                          
        including interest.                                                                                                     
       • Entered into two new multi-year Royalty-In-Kind                                                                        
        contracts with Marathon and Petro Star.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER also noted that  the division manages the release of                                                               
tax  credit seismic  information to  the public,  as provided  in                                                               
statute.  He noted  that the  program that  provides credits  for                                                               
explorers  shooting seismic  was  no  longer available.  However,                                                               
provisions of those  laws obligate that data be  disclosed to the                                                               
public after the statutory period, often for ten years.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:38:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP  offered his understanding that  anybody can look                                                               
at the  rocks after the  information is released, as  provided in                                                               
statute.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. CROWTHER answered yes; the  information is available for a di                                                               
minimis, at-cost fee.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:39:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CROWTHER displayed slide 17  and highlighted the first bullet                                                               
about  the  new  unitization  activity on  the  North  Slope.  It                                                               
indicates that  an explorer has  characterized a resource  and is                                                               
working on  subsequent development.  In those units  the operator                                                               
is building  on its sanction  of the  Pikka project. He  said the                                                               
department  looks forward  to further  characterization in  those                                                               
new units.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.   CROWTHER   also    highlighted   the   right-of-way   lease                                                               
applications and  permits the department has  issued. Finally, in                                                               
keeping with its mission regarding not  just oil and gas but also                                                               
geothermal,  the division  had a  best interest  finding for  the                                                               
geothermal  prospect  that was  issued  in  FY2022. The  division                                                               
continues to  promote the development of  the geothermal resource                                                               
and looks  at ways to improve  that program so more  activity can                                                               
happen in the geothermal space in Alaska.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:40:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GOODRUM advanced to slide 18  and stated that the Division of                                                               
Parks  and Outdoor  Recreation operates  the  largest state  park                                                               
system  in  the  nation.  The division  supports  public  safety,                                                               
economic development,  education, and  resource management  as it                                                               
provides access to  world-class outdoor recreation opportunities.                                                               
He  mentioned record  traffic, the  increased  number of  permits                                                               
issued, the  improved reservation system, and  the new electronic                                                               
fee stations.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOODRUM specifically mentioned the following:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     • Park Rangers responded to 42-plus Search and                                                                             
        Rescues.                                                                                                                
     • Office of Boating Safety's 366 classes, 54 pool                                                                          
        sessions reached 10,332 participants; 221,919 since                                                                     
        inception.                                                                                                              
     • Office of History & Archaeology's State Historic                                                                         
        Preservation Office reviewed 2,111 projects, signed                                                                     
        14 major agreements and made substantive amendments                                                                     
        to 9 other major agreements.                                                                                            
     • Office of History & Archaeology's State Historic                                                                         
        Preservation Office reviewed 2,111 projects, signed                                                                     
        14 major agreements and made substantive amendments                                                                     
        to 9 other major agreements                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DUNBAR  expressed  interest  in the  Alaska  Long  Trail                                                               
project.  He asked  about the  prospects of  it being  built, the                                                               
likely  construction  costs, and  whether  those  funds would  be                                                               
included in a future budget.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. GOODRUM offered his understanding  that money for the project                                                               
was  included  in  the  capital  budget. He  added  that  it  was                                                               
challenging  because  the network  of  land  ownership along  the                                                               
route from Seward north to Fairbanks  was so diverse. He said the                                                               
division  is still  in the  learning phase,  but recognizes  that                                                               
this trail is an exciting opportunity.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:44:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN commented that while  he appreciates the idea of a                                                               
global  plan before  moving  forward with  the  trail system,  he                                                               
didn't believe  it was practical.  He suggested that  a patchwork                                                               
approach  like  Anchorage took  on  the  Coastal Trail  was  more                                                               
likely  to be  successful.  He voiced  his  frustration that  the                                                               
governor had  vetoed Long  Trail monies the  last few  years that                                                               
could have  started the project.  He emphasized the  huge support                                                               
for this  trail and that most  people recognize that it  won't be                                                               
built in one year.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:45:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CROWTHER advanced  to slide 19 and explained  that the Office                                                             
of Project  Management and Permitting (OPMP)  was responsible for                                                               
permitting   all    large   projects   that    require   multiple                                                               
authorizations  and   chooses  to  be  facilitated   by  a  state                                                               
organization.  The  intent  is to  provide  a  one-stop-shop  for                                                               
project applicants to receive information  and direction from all                                                               
state,  federal,  and  local authorities.  The  office  works  to                                                               
ensure  that permitting  is consistent,  defensible, transparent,                                                               
and timely.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:46:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CROWTHER advanced to slide 20 and provided commentary.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Large  Project  Coordination: These  include  major  oil and  gas                                                             
developments  and major  mining developments.  He noted  that the                                                               
list has  both prospects and  operating mines because  mines must                                                               
be  continuously  permitted  throughout their  operations.  Major                                                               
transportation projects  have also received  coordination through                                                               
OPMP. These include  the Ambler Access Road and  the West Susitna                                                               
Access  Road. The  OPMP team  has also  coordinated hydroelectric                                                               
projects, as illustrated on the slide.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Federal Plans  and Activities:  In the  last several  years, OPMP                                                             
has spent  more time  tracking and  managing federal  actions. He                                                               
stated  that   while  federal  permitting  is   part  of  project                                                               
development under  any administration and project  structure, the                                                               
suite of  federal actions that  potentially restrict  activity in                                                               
Alaska  have been  significant  under  the Biden  administration.                                                               
With  appropriations   from  the  legislature,   an  increasingly                                                               
important role for  OPMP has been tracking and  responding to the                                                               
federal  actions related  to the  Alaska National  Interest Lands                                                               
Conservation Act  (ANILCA), the  federal permitting  process that                                                               
needs  to  move  forward,  and federal  regulatory  actions  that                                                               
affect the development of lands and resources in the state.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Federal Programs and  Grants: He noted that OPMP  also performs a                                                             
variety of grant management activities.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:48:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GOODRUM  advanced to slide  21 and summarized the  mission of                                                               
the Support Services Division:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Mission:  Provide client-focused,  efficient and  cost-                                                                  
     effective   financial,   budget,   procurement,   human                                                                    
     resource,   information    technology   and   recording                                                                    
     services  to the  Department of  Natural Resources  and                                                                    
     the public.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He stated  that the division  has processed an  increasing number                                                               
of e-recordings in recent years,  and revenue generation has been                                                               
steady. He  noted that  the marked revenue  uptick in  FY2021 was                                                               
due  to  the  all-time  high  number  of  home  refinancings  and                                                               
recording  of  those  documents.  He directed  attention  to  the                                                               
critical  functions outlined  in  the mission  statement, all  of                                                               
which are critical to a smooth functioning department.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:49:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  CROWTHER advanced  to  slide  22 to  review  the Trust  Land                                                               
Office. He explained that this  office works within DNR to manage                                                               
Alaska's Mental  Health Trust lands.  Those lands are  endowed to                                                               
the Mental  Health Trust for  the benefit of  trust beneficiaries                                                               
and to run  the programs that are run by  the Mental Health Trust                                                               
Authority.  He directed  attention to  the list  of revenues  the                                                               
trust generated last year. Of  the $11 million that was generated                                                               
last  year, $3.6  million came  from mineral  and energy  assets.                                                               
Land  sales generated  more than  $3.4 million,  thereby creating                                                               
additional revenue for taxing authorities.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CROWTHER   highlighted  the  following  Trust   Land  Office                                                               
initiatives bulleted on slide 23:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     • Subdivision development on multiple Trust parcels                                                                        
        statewide to offer in future land sales and leasing.                                                                    
     • Icy Cape Minerals Project drilling program leading                                                                       
        to a prefeasibility study.                                                                                              
     • Easements program to capture revenue from existing                                                                       
        and new utility infrastructure.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He confirmed  an earlier statement  about the important  role the                                                               
Mental Health  Trust Authority plays  in providing timber  to the                                                               
timber  industry in  Southeast Alaska.  He noted  that the  Trust                                                               
Land Office was  continuing to work to execute  the land exchange                                                               
with the  US Forest Service,  pursuant to federal  approvals next                                                               
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:51:29 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE BOYLE discussed  the Office of Commissioner                                                               
and  the Department  of Natural  Resources (DNR)  as a  whole. He                                                               
spoke about the  incredible culture at DNR and  the dedicated and                                                               
highly skilled  professionals who work  there. They go  above and                                                               
beyond  to serve  the interests  of the  state. Maintaining  that                                                               
culture  is key  to retaining  and  attract talent.  He made  the                                                               
following observations:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
- In FY2022,  DNR worked to reduce the  backlog of administrative                                                               
appeals. Some of the decisions  that have been rendered in recent                                                               
months may significantly influence  investment for development in                                                               
the  state.  Recognizing  that  timely  response  to  appeals  is                                                               
important, the department created  an associate director position                                                               
to focus on processing these appeal packages.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
-  DNR actively  promotes Alaska  resources to  global investors.                                                               
The team at the Division  of Geological & Geophysical Surveys was                                                               
instrumental  in   the  department  being  able   to  market  the                                                               
attractiveness of the Nanushuk Formation  on the North Slope. The                                                               
fruits  of  that  work  are  apparent in  the  Pikka  and  Willow                                                               
projects. It  feeds in to  new entrants and  facilitates reaching                                                               
out to the Department of Defense  and the Department of Energy to                                                               
showcase Alaska's ability to be  a key resource supplier. This is                                                               
important  to  national  security  and the  nation's  ability  to                                                               
transition to different forms of energy in the future.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
- Statehood defense is another  area of focus for the department.                                                               
Commissioner-designee  Boyle  mentioned reimplementation  of  the                                                               
Roadless Rule for  the Tongass; the EPA's preemptive  veto on the                                                               
Pebble  Mine  Project;  statehood  land  entitlement  selections,                                                               
particularly along the Dalton Highway;  and the Willow project in                                                               
the NPRA. Litigation on these  issues is to protect the interests                                                               
of the  state so it's  possible to  grow and develop  the natural                                                               
resources called for  in the Statehood Act. The  compact with the                                                               
federal government  said the state  would be able to  utilize its                                                               
resources  to build  infrastructure and  provide quality  of life                                                               
for residents. He  opined that the preemptive veto  of the Pebble                                                               
project disregards the state's ability  to manage and protect its                                                               
resources  through  state  processes. These  issues  merit  time,                                                               
attention, and  resources to  push back  when necessary  but also                                                               
find areas of alignment.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
-  It's  important  for the  department  to  be  customer-service                                                               
oriented in  terms of  the ability  to process  permits, appeals,                                                               
and leases timely  to attract investment and  enable business and                                                               
commerce to  move forward. It  is incumbent on the  department to                                                               
keep that focus in mind.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE  BOYLE concluded  his comments  saying that                                                               
the  department  was   eager  to  talk  with   the  committee  in                                                               
forthcoming weeks about the forthcoming  carbon bills and working                                                               
through  the  issues  to  fulfill the  Article  VIII  mandate  to                                                               
develop,  conserve,  and  maximize  the  resources  in  the  best                                                               
interest of the people.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:59:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN asked  if the Pebble Mine decision was  one of his                                                               
highest priorities as commissioner.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE BOYLE  answered yes, in the  context of the                                                               
state  being  able  to  conduct its  own  permitting  regime  for                                                               
development on state land.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:00:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  if the  administration had  plans to                                                               
file  a lawsuit  or  intervene  in a  lawsuit  regarding the  EPA                                                               
decision on Pebble Mine.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE  BOYLE offered  his understanding  that the                                                               
administration was discussing that issue.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GIESSEL thanked the presenters.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:01:25 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Co-Chair   Giessel  adjourned   the  Senate   Resources  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 5:01 p.m.                                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
2023 02 08 SRES DNR Overview Presentation.pdf SRES 2/8/2023 3:30:00 PM
DOR Response to SRES 03.30.23.pdf SRES 2/8/2023 3:30:00 PM